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Isobel Bird
Bio
Isobel Bird has been involved in the world of paganism and witchcraft for many years. She lives and dances beneath the moon somewhere in New England.
Interview
Think modern day witches look like the one in The Wizard of Oz and spend their days
stirring spells in a big pot? Think again. Author Isobel Bird has brought the true story
of Wicca to teenagers with her CIRCLE OF THREE series. High schoolers Cooper, Annie, and
Kate learn about that old time religion, friendship, and themselves, all the while
negotiating the minefield of daily teen dramas. Teenreads reviewer Lucy Burns recently had
the opportunity to ask Bird a few questions about the religion, why she writes, and where
the two crafts intersect.
Teenreads: What were your reasons behind writing a series about Wicca for teenagers?
And why a series of fiction books as opposed to how-to or scholarly books?
IB: I'd wanted to write a series about Wicca for a YA
audience for several years, primarily because I was seeing a lot of young people who were
interested in the Craft and who wanted good books to read that would inspire and entertain
them. There were already a number of good how-to and nonfiction books, but there was no
fiction with Wiccan themes. More importantly, there were no books that really captured the
experience of studying Wicca. Wicca is an experiential spirituality --- you really can't
understand it fully from books, you have to just do it --- and I wanted to write a series
that followed a group of young people learning about the Craft, with all of their mistakes
and joys, so that readers could get a taste of what practicing Wicca is like and perhaps
be inspired to find out more on their own.
Teenreads: Do you think Americans have funny ideas about witches in general and Wicca
in particular? Do you think libraries and schools might have a hard time when they
recommend your books as they show Wicca practitioners in a very positive and objective
way?
IB: I do think that people have funny ideas about what
Wicca and witches are, mainly because the popular images in books, movies, and television
shows are based on fantasy instead of on reality. I love watching shows like
"Buffy," "Sabrina," and "Charmed," but these shows don't
depict real witchcraft. When people see witches doing things like the witches on those
shows do, it's difficult for them to understand that Wicca is actually a very serious,
very spiritual practice that has little to do with what they see on TV or read in most
books. As far as librarians recommending my books, I've found that the majority of
librarians care deeply about their patrons and their needs, and are almost always willing
to suggest books they think readers will enjoy. One of the reasons I wrote CIRCLE OF THREE
is because I met a lot of librarians who complained about the lack of quality fiction
addressing the world of Wicca for a young adult audience.
Teenreads: Kate, Annie, and Cooper are such well drawn characters, I feel like I know
them. Do you have friends you modeled the girls on or are you like any of them?
IB: The characters in the books are sometimes modeled
after people I know. The character of Archer, for instance, is modeled after one of my
best friends, also called Archer. Kate, Cooper, and Annie are based in part on friends,
but primarily each one is a part of myself. Each of them represents a different way of
approaching learning about Wicca, and each of them is based on my own experiences learning
about the Craft. Cooper is the headstrong one who just jumps right in. Annie wants to
believe in magic but because of her logical way of seeing the world she sometimes has a
hard time trusting in it. Kate struggles with the conflict between her desire to fit in
and her desire to follow the Wiccan path. I've felt like each one of them at some point in
my life, so it's easy to draw on those feelings when I write about the girls.
Teenreads: Who is your favorite Young Adult writer?
IB: I have many favorite writers, but perhaps my
favorite is Carson McCullers. Some people might not consider her a young adult writer, but
she writes about young people and how they feel as they learn about who they are and what
their place in the world is. Her book THE MEMBER OF THE WEDDING is one of my all-time
favorites, and it greatly influenced me as a young person and as a writer. I also very
much love the work of Shirley Jackson, best known for the short story "The
Lottery." Again, she is not considered a young adult writer, but she writes books
that many young people can relate to, particularly her book WE HAVE ALWAYS LIVED IN THE
CASTLE.
Teenreads: Did you have a teacher who inspired you to write?
IB: For many years my teachers told me that I should
be a writer. Strangely enough, I didn't really pay attention to them. In high school I had
two English teachers who encouraged me to write more, and I did. But I still didn't think
of myself as a writer. It wasn't until I graduated from college that I actually began
writing seriously. So I have my teachers to thank for believing in me and for introducing
me to books and writers that inspired me, but it took a long time for me to be convinced
that I was supposed to write.
Teenreads: How long did you work on the idea for the series? Was it hard finding a
publisher because of the "edgy" material? Did you have to deal with rejection?
Do you have advice for young writer girls?
IB: The CIRCLE OF THREE series actually happened in
quite a magical way. A number of years ago I suggested it to an editor I had worked with
on some other things. She liked it, but the time wasn't right for it to happen because no
one thought a series about real witchcraft would be accepted. I put it away and did some
magical exercises asking the Goddess to perhaps give it a little push when it was time for
it to happen. Then, several years later, another editor called me and asked if I might
want to write a series about Wicca for young adults. I took out CIRCLE OF THREE and sent
it to her, and that's how it all started. I always tell this story as an example of how
real magic can work. I put the intention for this series out into the universe, and it
manifested when the time was right. But yes, I have often had to deal with rejection in my
work. I would like to say that it's easy to take, but of course it isn't. However, I truly
believe that everything happens for a reason, and I believe that books that are meant to
happen will happen. As far as advice for young writers, my advice is to write for yourself
first. Don't think about getting published. Write what you need to write and then think
about how to get it out to people to read. And don't try to do what other people are
doing. Write your own story. It's easy to want to imitate writers you like, but it's only
when you let your individual voice come out that your writing takes off.
Teenreads: I really love how you write about Kate, Annie and Cooper's learning journey:
they are finding out both more about themselves and Wicca. Did you have someone who guided
you when you first started learning about the Craft?
IB: I started reading about the Craft on my own, when
I was in college. I have always been interested in religion, and that's how I first
started studying it. It was actually several years before I started seriously working in
Wicca. Once I did, I found that teachers came to me in many forms. Some were actual
teachers at workshops and retreats that I went to. Others were friends, and still others
were writers whose work I read. One of the beautiful things about the Craft is that once
you decide to seriously pursue it, you find many different paths opening up to you and
many teachers appearing to help you on your way.
Teenreads: What advice would you give to teens who are interested in learning more
about Wicca?
IB: The biggest piece of advice I can give is to say
that you should never let anyone tell you that there is only one way to practice the
Craft. If a teacher says you have to do something one way and one way only, question that.
Read everything you can find. Try different ways of practicing and doing rituals. Find
what works for you. If you have a Wiccan community in your area, see if they offer
workshops or open rituals for those who want to learn more. If you have friends who are
interested, start your own study group. Go slowly, trying different things and seeing how
you feel about them. Learning about Wicca takes a lifetime, and there's no hurry. Start
simple, and don't think you have to know everything at once.
Teenreads: I have read all the books currently out and I'm jonesing to know more. Will
we get to learn more about Sasha and Tyler and the other members of the coven? What will
happen when Annie, Kate, and Cooper graduate?
IB: Well, there are some exciting and surprising
things coming up in the series. One of the things you learn when you start studying Wicca
is to be ready for anything, and the characters in CIRCLE OF THREE are going to have some
tough challenges ahead of them. The series is structured so that we follow Kate, Annie,
and Cooper through their year and a day of study, ending with their initiation. I'm not
sure what will happen after that. There are several characters --- including Sasha --- who
would make great students of Wicca if we continue to a second year, so who knows...
Teenreads: A lot of teens have to deal with rejection (and worse) by their families and
friends when they choose "alternative" lifestyles. In the CIRCLE OF THREE books,
Kate's family and friends are very conservative and think the other girls are bad
influences/freaks. How did your family deal when you decided to learn about Wicca?
IB: I wasn't living with my family when I began
studying Wicca, so it wasn't an issue. But you're right that many families and friends
think it's something strange. Some of my friends certainly did. And it can be very, very
difficult explaining what Wicca is to people who just don't understand or don't want to
understand. At that point you often have to make tough decisions about whether or not
having those people in your life is really helping you or not.
As far as young people and their families not understanding their interest in Wicca,
that's even harder. The best thing you can do is try to honestly explain your interest in
the Craft to them.
Teenreads: What is your favorite Wiccan ritual? Do you have one you do before or after
you write? Do you have a special Goddess whom you ask for help from when working?
IB: There are many rituals that I enjoy. In fact, I
pretty much enjoy all of them. I don't really have a favorite because each one brings
something new to my experience of the Craft. The one ritual I do more than any others is a
basic meditation to begin my day. This is one that I have the characters do quite a bit in
different forms, because it's so important to any study of the Craft. Usually I sit and
envision myself in my own magical grove. I draw energy into myself and let it fill me,
burning away any negative feelings I might be struggling with and replacing them with
positive feelings. I also ask the Goddess to inspire me and help me complete the work I
need to do that day. As far as working with particular goddesses, I do have some that I
like to work with frequently. When I'm writing, for example, I sometimes ask the goddess
Brigid for inspiration, because she was believed to inspire poets and writers.
--- Interviewed by Lucy Burns
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