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August 2005


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January 2003


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THE BIG SHUFFLE

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BEGINNER'S LUCK

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THE BIG SHUFFLE

HEART'S DESIRE

BEGINNER'S LUCK


Laura Pedersen

BIO

Laura Pedersen was born in Buffalo, New York (one of "God's frozen people") in 1965, at the height of The Folk Music Scare. (For details of misspent youth see essay at 'Is there a Nurse in the Church?). After finishing high school in 1983 she moved to Manhattan and began working on The American Stock Exchange, a time when showing up combined with basic computation skills could be parlayed into a career. She chronicled these years in her first book, PLAY MONEY.

Having vowed to become anything but a journalist and with no conception of what a semicolon does, Laura spent the better part of the 1990s writing for The New York Times.

In 1994 President Clinton honored her as one of Ten Outstanding Young Americans. She has appeared on TV shows including "Oprah," "Good Morning American," "Primetime Live," and "David Letterman".

In 2001, her first novel, GOING AWAY PARTY, won the Three Oaks Prize for Fiction and was published by Storyline Press. BEGINNER'S LUCK was published by Ballantine Books in 2003 and subsequently chosen for the Barnes & Noble "Discover Great New Writers" program, Borders "Original Voices," and as a featured alternate for The Literary Guild. BEGINNER'S LUCK has been optioned as a feature film starring Brittany Snow (TV's "American Dreams") as Hallie.

Pedersen's third novel, LAST CALL, came out in 2004. HEART'S DESIRE, the sequel to BEGINNER'S LUCK, arrives in stores on July 26, 2005. And the third novel in that series, FULL HOUSE, will be published in the spring of 2006.

Laura lives in New York City, teaches reading and trades Yu-Gi-Oh! cards at the Booker T. Washington Learning Center in East Harlem, and is a member of the national literary association P.E.N. (poets, essayists and novelists).

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AUTHOR TALK

August 2005

Q: The novel revolves around the universal theme of love: Hallie is trying to understand it, Bernard is trying to get it back, and Olivia is trying to keep it at arm's length. Is there an ultimate, common message about the nature of love that you hope readers will glean from the character's individual struggles?

LP: Don't start with the easy questions or anything like that. I suppose that embracing love in all its various forms means that you're alive, and though relationships can be challenging and sometimes even heartbreaking, don't become a cynic and give up or opt out of the system. Ruth Gordon said it substantially better in the movie "Harold and Maude": "A lot of people enjoy being dead. But they are not dead, really. They're just backing away from life. Reach out. Take a chance. Get hurt even. But play as well as you can. Go team, go! Give me an "L". Give me an "I". Give me a "V". Give me an "E". L-I-V-E. LIVE! Otherwise, you got nothing to talk about in the locker room."

Q: Hallie faces many of the romantic issues that we all stumble on during youth, such as how to know if someone is ‘the one' and how to make sense of the different types of love. Do you think these issues become clearer as we grow older, and how have your own views on love evolved through your adolescence, dating years and marriage?

LP: As a teenager it was obvious to me that love was a game for the young. And then when I was living with my 86-year-old grandfather I observed his girlfriend having a fit about a few women down at the senior's center who were apparently trying to get his attention by saving a chair for him and bringing over extra ice cream. Grandpa's gal pal was in her early 80s and absolutely crazed with jealousy over the whole thing. I was 19 and it suddenly became clear that many aspects of love never change. On the other hand, I think that as we grow older we learn what it means to love a child (especially when he or she is not acting very lovable) and we appreciate good friendships more as we see how easily they can slip away when folks aren't required to show up for holidays and instead need to make an effort to get together.

Q: Further complicating matters are Hallie's raging hormones and the thorny subject of physical love. What advice would you give to a young adult in her position, trying to decide if the time is right to take a relationship to a physical level?

LP: I work with a lot of young people and so I'm comfortable with the fact that my thoughts on this matter will be totally disregarded and considered old-fashioned, if not downright stupid. Nonetheless, I still tell all of my girls not to get into a SERIOUS physical relationship (fill in the blank, young ladies) until after high school because they may not yet be ready emotionally. When high school love affairs go awry entire semesters can be lost to grief, complete with grades dropping, loss of inertia, and even college plans derailed. Just by "going out" and all that entails, breakups are traumatic enough, but when you add sex into the mix, they're a lot more emotionally trying. As for the boys, they tend to find their way a bit more easily in these matters and will either pursue hooking up until someone says yes, or the right girl at the right time will find him. (If you've ever spent time in a girl's lavatory at a public high school you know it's not really the boys who are determining most of these liaisons.)

Q: The novel also highlights the special kind of love that exists between friends and the importance of friendship in helping us weather rough times. In what ways have your own friends helped you reach a resolution to a problem or see things in a different light?

LP: Being that I'm an only child, friendships are extremely important in my life. (My father remarried after my parents divorced and so I now have six stepsisters, but they came later in life and are older so it wasn't the same as growing up with siblings.) There is something amazing about having four or five people who have known me since birth or kindergarten who I can talk to about absolutely anything. I can honestly say I've never felt lonely, not for a minute. The fact that my parents didn't move while I was growing up was also helpful in allowing me to form such lifelong relationships. My friends are terrific at listening (sometimes to the same thing over and over) and at saying the right things. For instance, if it was about breaking up with a guy in high school they'd immediately start listing the many reasons he was a jerk and how the next guy (and there would be one!) was going to be a million times better. On the other hand, if I wanted to get back together with the guy then they'd refrain from saying all the reasons he was a jerk and help make a plan to recover the relationship, even if we all knew it was a strategy that would never be implemented. Most of the time my friends tell me what I want or need to hear and I'm grateful for that. And the times they don't, and give me the hard truth instead, I listen up because I know they're right and I'd better pay attention so as to avoid making some serious mistakes.

Q: Bernard is the kind of friend that we all wish we had in real-life: someone with a zest for living and a generous heart who's always there with a wisecrack and a homemade meal whenever the chips are down. Did you base him on someone you know, and if not, what served as your inspiration for his eclectic blend of characteristics?

LP: Bernard is based on someone I know who lives back home where I grew up in Buffalo, NY. In fact, when I was there last week he was threatening me (while making some kind of hummus hors d'oeuvres at seven o'clock in the morning) that I'd better stop using his life in these books. (I could tell he secretly gets a kick out of it.) When this issue arises I always say that I can't believe how self-involved he is to think that characters in a book are based on him and that he should reread the first page where it clearly states that all the people are fictitious and solely a product of the author's imagination. Then he complains that friends are phoning him and reading lines in that book that are very close to things he's actually done or said, but I'm pretty sure he actually enjoys that too.

Q: In HEART'S DESIRE, we witness Hallie's continued transformation and maturation from BEGINNER'S LUCK. For the first time, she glimpses some of the responsibilities of being an adult. Based on your own experience, what do you think is the most challenging aspect in the rocky transition from adolescence to adulthood?

LP: I think the first time you get into a jam and realize your parents or primary caretaker can't get you out of it is a big step on the road to adulthood. The second one is when you have to take care of someone else, such as an ailing parent or a small child, and your needs can no longer get top billing on the marquee, the way they usually did when you were young.

Q: Hallie helps her sister Louise learn from her own past mistakes, demonstrating that making mistakes --- and moving on from them --- is a rite of passage of growing up. Is there any decision or action that you would undo from your early adulthood if you had the opportunity?

LP: I am a great one for rerunning the movie, thinking back to forks in the road and wondering what would have happened if I had done something else instead. One example that regularly crosses my mind is the issue of attending private school. My mom was a big believer in the public school system, saying that you were going to have to deal with all sorts of people in the real world and so you may as well start learning how to do that early on. However my high school was fairly large and by eleventh grade I started flaming out, getting into some trouble, taking full advantage of the lack of accountability and relative ease with which I could work the system. There are some excellent private schools in Buffalo and so I can't help but wonder what would have happened if I'd attended one. On the other hand, I have terrific lifelong friends from growing up in my school system and a few teachers who had a very positive impact. Maybe skipping some school and following my own agenda was just what I needed to be doing at the time. I had tremendous energy and a short attention span and so perhaps a more structured environment would have driven me over the edge. So I can't say that I'd change anything, but I do believe even small decisions can be life-altering and so you have to try and give them careful consideration with regard to what you think is best and not just do what others expect of you.

Q: Despite its light-hearted tone, the novel touches on a variety of social issues such as gay adoption, the evils of big business, and the unaffordable price of a college education, among others. Are these issues you feel passionate about and do you feel there's ways we can all effect social change, even if on a small scale?

LP: I was raised in the Unitarian church and they were constantly marching and petitioning for social and political change, everything from boycotting grapes until the agricultural workers were treated better to registering people to vote. In-between you had removing intoxicated drivers, nuclear disarmament, the equal rights amendment for women, anti-war movements, championing local coffee growers in South America who were being shut out of the marketplace by large corporations, local animal rights, battered women, helping the homeless. Believe me, I could go on. Olivia is definitely the voice of social conscience throughout the book. However the idea is that her causes don't have to be your causes. As for me, I long ago realized that I can't be on every committee. But I'm a big believer in the starfish theory (it's important to do what you can even if it feels small, like throwing one starfish back into the sea), so I've selected a few things that are important to me. For instance, the past ten years I've volunteered at a school in East Harlem where I tutor in reading and math and plan some fun stuff for the kids. We also have a full-time summer program where they do school work in the morning and then take trips in the afternoon. I believe that all children need a safe space to learn, play, and grow, with a certain amount of structure and adult supervision to help them understand how to interact successfully, with fairness, kindness and respect for one another.

Q: One of the best things about the book, in addition to the wonderfully endearing characters, is the witty narrative voice and hilarious one-liners. Do your comedic gifts make you an extremely popular dinner party guest and have you ever considered dabbling in stand-up comedy?

LP: My "comedic gifts" got me thrown out of high school. But yes, I did perform standup comedy at places like "The Improv" in New York during the 1980s. The thing about standup is that it's usually a road to somewhere else – you should want a TV show or to do HBO specials. I didn't desire those things, nor do I particularly love being a performer. I much prefer writing. However I still write jokes for a few comedians you would recognize.

Q: The characters in Heart's Desire have a variety of interesting hobbies that they're passionate about, from gardening and cooking to musicals, gambling, and decorating, which is what makes them so lively and three-dimensional. Do you share any of these passions with them in your spare time when you're not writing?

LP: I love to look at flowers but I'm allergic to them and have what you might call a brown thumb. My idea of decorating is putting maps up on all the walls. I'm also a horrendous cook, which I come by honestly since my mom is mostly Irish and there aren't too many cookbooks called, "Great Irish Recipes," nor do people often say, "Hey, let's go out for Irish food." Furthermore, my mom used to decide that dinner was cooked when she finished a chapter in her book. So I should say it was always overcooked since, as a nurse, she worried about food poisoning and always went an extra chapter just to be on the safe side. We had a saying around my house, "Where's there's smoke, there's dinner." When I was growing up I assisted a teacher (who later became a good friend) in putting on our high school musicals. That was fun and by osmosis I picked up a lot about show tunes, mostly from the 1940s and 50s. Being from Buffalo I of course know how to bowl. (Don't ever bowl against someone from a steel town.) I also enjoy rollerblading. But most of all I like being with the kids at my school because they're interesting and funny and I always learn a lot from them.

Q: Fans will be delighted to know there are two more Hallie Palmer book in the works. When you wrote BEGINNER'S LUCK, did you foresee it blossoming into a series? Has writing the subsequent novels become more difficult or easier over time and how do you envision the character of Hallie continuing to evolve in the future?

LP: When I wrote BEGINNER'S LUCK I didn't envision the novel as the start of a series. However, after it came out people were constantly asking what happens to the characters, especially Hallie, since the book is rather open-ended about her future. Furthermore, the folks from Cosgrove County continued to live on inside my head, thereby leaving me partially schizophrenic, with a number of different dialogues running at any given time. For instance, around the election I could hear the bleeding heart liberal Olivia saying, "They were forced to elect him for a second term because it was obvious there wouldn't be a book deal from a president who is anti-semantic." And when I had a disappointing meal at a restaurant I could hear Bernard saying, "But the presentation was excellent and that's the main thing." Then with all the excitement about poker the past few years I found myself wondering if Hallie had known all along this was going to be the next big thing and whether she was out in Las Vegas cleaning up at the casinos. So for reasons of sanity more than story I had to let them all escape back onto the page. The narrative in Heart's Desire picks up about ten months later, when Hallie has finished her first year of college. My problem now is that people are asking if Hallie eventually graduates from college and what happens with her and Craig. Plus I'm still hearing the voices. Driving through South Carolina last week and seeing the blue evacuation route signs along the roadside, the homebody Bernard remarked, "I'd much rather live in a place where you can get snowed in as opposed to flooded out. On the other hand, the mouthwatering hushpuppies at Shrimp Shack on Sea Island Parkway and scrumptious chocolate fudge at Southern Sweets in Beaufort might just make it worth the risk." Full House, in which Hallie turns 19 and has to return home for a year to manage a family crisis, is finished and will be published in November of 2006. (The first two chapters can be read on the Web site.) After that there will be a final installment called Best Bet where Hallie ventures out into the world. She'll be about 20 or 21 and so that's probably a good place to wrap things up since when I think back on my own life that's when I started to get really boring. At least that's what the voices in my head are telling me right now. Now if I can only convince them to give me tomorrow's winning lottery numbers...

© Copyright 2005, Laura Pedersen. All rights reserved.

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AUTHOR TALK

January 2003

Julie Sciandra and Laura Pedersen have been friends for years and worked together at various times. They recently sat down to talk about life and Laura's book Beginner's Luck after bowling. (Julie won, but only by a few pins, and there will definitely be a rematch.)

JS: You shouldn't have asked me to do this. I know too much.

LP: That's the reason I can't get rid of you.

JS: Let's start with the cooking. There's a picture of you in the kitchen with a big red X through it. You're the one who blew up the potato because you didn't know enough to poke holes in it!

LP: You should talk, Miss Lipton Cup-a-Soup. Anyway, that's why it's called fiction. I can write about food even if I can't cook it myself. Nothing bad ever happens to a writer. It's all material.

JS: Same with the flowers. You're allergic to almost anything outside.

LP: But I love to look at them. Pictures are best. However, feel free to bring me chocolate anytime. The Irish have a saying: "You can't eat flowers."

JS: I've noticed that all your stories involve these large families and yet you grew up as an only child. Are you stealing from the Pyne family again?

LP: Mostly. They lived behind me and had two parents, nine kids, two dogs, and a cat. I spent a lot of time over there when I was growing up. It was a predominantly Catholic neighborhood, and several families had enough kids for their own football teams.

JS: And what about these Christian families? Your parents divorced when you were a teenager and are so liberal that they probably vote left-handed.

LP: Buffalo, where I grew up, is a melting pot of every ethnicity and religion. When immigrants came to New York from Europe, many headed upstate to work in the grain elevators and steel mills. At my public high school we had everything--Baptist, Jewish, Catholic, Presbyterian, Greek Orthodox. I believe that truth can be found in almost all religions but that no one religion holds all the truth.

JS: But you're Unitarian. Aren't the people at your church going to burn you on a question mark for making fun of them in the book?

LP: They laugh at themselves more than anyone else does. Worst case is that I'll get hit over the head with a clipboard. The real reason they're going to be mad is that the official name is "Unitarian Universalist," and they're sticklers about that. But with ten syllables and twenty-one letters it would take up the entire book.

JS: Two of the main characters, Olivia and Bernard Stockton, are rather eccentric. Are they based on real people?

LP: Not specifically. I've had several terrific teachers and mentors throughout my life. I've also known many type A personalities, gamblers, bohemians, and oddballs, especially having worked on Wall Street in the 1980s and then in journalism and television. And I must confess that for the most part I'm charmed by them all--their terrific energy, idealism, creative vocabulary, and love of life. Also, growing up in the Unitarian Universalist Church exposed me to a large number of protesters, peaceniks, petitioners, and so forth.

JS: What did you steal from yourself? Give me one similarity between you and Hallie and one difference.

LP: I gambled as a kid. I'm an only child. My dad is an only child. His father was an only child. My mom has a brother and sister, but they don't have any children. So it was all these grown-ups and me. They weren't about to start playing Chutes and Ladders and Barrel of Monkeys. When I was five my mom taught me poker, and later I learned to count cards at blackjack. But I can only do math when I'm betting or there's a dollar sign in front of the numbers. Otherwise I'm a disaster. The major difference between Hallie and me is that I always knew what I wanted to do with my life, and if my parents had any expectations they kept them so well hidden that they haven't surfaced to this day.

JS: So what happens to Hallie after the book ends?

LP: She grows up and one day there's a cousin, niece, nephew, or neighbor's kid who can't talk to his or her parents and so she returns the favor of lending a sympathetic ear. Then they all join hands and sing "Will the Circle Be Unbroken" in a round.

JS: Yeah, sure they do. I can ask you anything and you have to answer, right?

LP: Yes, there are electrodes attached to my fingertips.

JS: What's the one thing you wouldn't want readers to know about you?

LP: As a teenager I didn't exactly volunteer the information that my father was a folksinger. But now I don't mind. I suppose I wouldn't want people to know about the shoes, the pigs, and the Knicks.

JS: I know about the shoes. When no one is around you have some of the worst shoes. The boxes they came in would look better on your feet than the shoes themselves. And I know about the pigs. You took care of the pigs on a farm when you were a kid, became emotionally overinvolved, and now everyone gives you pig paraphernalia (except bacon!). But what's with the New York Knicks? They're the local basketball team.

LP: I wrote a story for The New York Times and spelled it "Nicks." Of course, my editor fixed it before we went to print, but it became clear how little I knew about sports.

JS: But you played soccer in high school.

LP: That's why Hallie plays soccer. It's the only game I know how to play. Though she's much better than I was.

JS: I believe your claim to fame is never having scored a goal in four years.

LP: I was a fullback. We're just supposed to stand tall near the goal, more like security guards than athletes. However, I did score once. Though it was for the other team. My heel caught the ball and chucked it into our own goal.

JS: I was curious as to why there wasn't a dog in Beginner's Luck. You love dogs.

LP: The Stocktons had a dog named Buster, but he's dead by the time Hallie arrives, though he's still listed in the phone book. I think in the movie version the town will be the setting for a fight between two rival gangs of dogs, corgis and Chihuahuas, and it will be choreographed as a dance sequence like in West Side Story.

JS: I've seen you wandering around with scraps of paper falling out of your pockets, which means you're working on another book. Spill the beans.

LP: Last Call is a surprising romantic comedy about a somewhat alcoholic dying Scotsman who falls in love with a cloistered nun who also happens to be terminally ill.

JS: It doesn't sound romantic or comedic.

LP: That's the surprise.

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